12
Mar
2008
Posted by Bill as Miscellaneous

Would you think I were insane if I said that a blog that makes 30k a month in revenue is bad for Make Money Blogging? Well I am saying it and I can back it up. Check out my article and let me know what you think at the end in the comments.
Oh no, not another I hate John Chow post!! Not at all. I wrote an article about A-List bloggers a few weeks ago that involved putting the top 10 blogs from the 45n5 Top 100 list into my reader to study what they have to offer the blogosphere.
The knock on John has always been that he does nothing but post reviews or guest posts and I have even heard of his blog being referred to as a Splog. I wasn’t a fan of Chow before the experiment but I have come to appreciate what he has to offer. You can learn a ton from Mr. Chow if only you are smart enough to see it.
Here are some of the more common digs you read about why John Chow is a bad blogger. I am not saying at all that he is a bad blogger, but only that he is bad for blogging. Keep reading and see if you agree.
Jealousy can turn people into something they aren’t normally. I would be willing to bet that EVERY single one of these haters who claim to despise John’s blog and hate what he does would trade places with him in about 2 seconds.
They might hate review posts but if someone wanted to pay them 500 dollars to review something, they’d be on it like a fat kid on a candy bar. Snickers.
It seems to be common in America to root for the underdog and despise the Favorites. If you are an NFL fan you would only need to look at 2 teams in the last 20 or so years. The Dallas Cowboys and the New England Patriots. Both at one time were the underdog. Everyone was rooting for them, that is until they became powerhouse teams who won all the time. The fan appeal changed and suddenly they are reviled. Sound like a certain evil blog you know?
I came across one blog embroiled in a small argument lately who is in the MMO niche. I had never been on his site before so I decided to check it out. My first impression was not bad, didn’t really see anything that grabbed my eye but then I found the obligatory John Chow is awful post.
The title of his post was Dare to Be Interesting. His summary was John Chow was awful, ProBlogger was mediocre and that ShoeMoney still wrote good content. Uh yeah. Something a bit mixed up there in my opinion.
Here is a fact:
John Chow is a billion times better of a marketer than any of his detractors.
He is a perfect example that a great marketing plan can overcome ordinary content. You might hate him, but the simple fact that you hate him means has done his job right. You remember his blog, you know his name.
THAT is the lesson that you are missing from John Chow. If you read his site expecting him to teach you something, then pay attention. He’s putting on a lesson every day of the week, you just have to be intelligent enough to see it. Read his archives, see what he did BEFORE he became popular.
Success is not something the average person is a fan of unless it is their own.
This isn’t by any means a hater post but I want to emphasize that I do think John has been bad for blogging. Everytime he posts another 30k monthly income report, a thousand more MMO blogs are born. Most are abandoned shortly thereafter but then the next income report starts it all over again. It’s digital pollution.
The problem lies with how these new bloggers think they can make money. If it works for John then it must work for them, they simply imitate his every move. They push the same affiliate products, they write paid posts, they even blog about what they had for dinner. Imitation in itself is not a bad thing but the problem is that they push the SAME stuff that John does, the same affiliate products, the same reviews, the same posts.
This has become so predictable that you can literally almost guess the content of 80% of next week’s blog posts on these blogs by simply reading what John wrote this week. This copycat blogging and the explosion of subpar blogs pushing the same junk has led to a severe backlash against MMO blogs.
People are starting MMO blogs that have no knowledge of it at all and they often will try to fake it til they make it. This perpetuates the hatred for these types of blogs. A bad deal all the way around.
Is it John’s fault? Absolutely not but he is still the cause of it. Should he change what he is doing? Absolutely not.
John makes it look easy, but the facts are Making Money from Your Blog is Hard! If you are inspired to start a blog because of one of Chow’s income reports then I say by all means have at it. You should have realistic expectations about how much work is involved and how HARD it will be to make money from your blog. John has already perfected his method and the 10k other copycat blogs that are using his recipe are all WAAAY out in front of you.
Something that most don’t understand is that if you build a great blog with interesting content then the money will follow. Will it be 30k a month? Who knows but for now you have other things to worry about. Find your own voice, make your own way, write interesting content and grow your traffic first.
Only once you have ALL of these bases covered, should you even begin to worry about monetizing your blog.
That’s my thoughts on the subject……how about yours? Is John Evil incarnate or a role model for all to follow?
66 Responses
Erica B
March 12th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
1That picture is bad for my appetite!
Bad photos aside, I can say that I Chow has never been good for *my* blogging. I’ve never taken any information away from his blog that I can apply to my own work.
Erica B’s last blog post..The Long Awaited Wedding Post- Part 5: Formals
Jim - Just a Guy
March 12th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
2Thank you, thank you and again thank you. I have recently become very upset with my stumble button. I added the topic weblogs and I kept getting nothing but the same content on how to make money blogging and how to be a better blogger. I think I may have finally thuimbed down enough of them that I don’t get as much. This article was a breath of fresh air. This is coming form some one who has no desire to make money blogging. Blogging is my hobby and I would hate to ever have it become a job. Thank you for pointing out that John is the master of what he does and that 80% of the other MMO blogs are noting but poorly attempted clones.
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Erica DeWolf
March 12th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
3Great post…and I agree! I’ve had his blog in my feed reader for a while but never find anything that is really superior coming out of there. Regardless, he does an excellent job doing what he does- makes an incredible amount of money. So he remains there as a resource so I can visit the site to see the way he does things, and then copy it.
Great post.
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Andy MacDonald
March 12th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
4Well, this is the 2nd post of yours Ive ever read, and in both posts, i have to say i agree with you entirely. Whilst i am relatively new to blogging, i feel i have found my own voice and am trying to do things my own way. I think people like John Chow, Darren Rowse (to a lesser extent), and shoemoney, and all the other huge money-making websites out there constantly posting their earnings reports on a monthly basis, gives false hopes to ‘newbies’ on the town.
In my own opinion, and this is ‘my’ opinion, they only show their earnings reports to feed their ego’s. Yes i totally agree they have worked damned hard to earn their money and get to where they are today, but you don’t see celebrity’s, business tycoons and the likes of everybody else showing how much they earn to the world on a monthly basis…do you??
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Fat Tony69
March 13th, 2008 at 2:44 am
5Muhammad Ali did the same thing in a way. He made all the white people mad at him and when it came time to boxing, he kicked their ass. Though, everyone wanted to beat him and he became more and more popular. Of course, we all know he was king.
Wayne Liew
March 13th, 2008 at 5:45 am
6I guess those new MMO bloggers are trying to immitate John at the wrong time. At least, if they want to immitate, they should look at John’s archive as you have mentioned on how he is now able to write 5-6 or even more blog posts on what he ate for dinner in a week.
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Gerard
March 13th, 2008 at 6:06 am
7That’s quite an ambiguous post, Bill. I unsubscribed from John’s blog almost a year ago because he had nothing new to teach me. I found most of his content was worthless bragging, and pictures of him eating lobster. You’re sort of defending him while damning him at the same time.
But a lot of the problogging/MMO school is worthless these days. It’s an echo chamber filled withy fawning idiots who want a piece of the action but don’t have the imagination to make a success of it. I’ve said it before - who jumps into this overcrowded, ad-blind niche and expects to make money? Only a moron.
I’ve got no problem with John himself. He blogs well and is entertaining. But as you point out, people take their lead from him and start their own MMO blogs. They’re not as experienced or smart, so they regurgitate out the same content but without the expertise. So other people read *these* blogs and become misinformed.
That’s why I’ve drifted away from the whole problogging niche. And I lay the blame directly at those AdSense-cheque-waving probloggers like Darren, John and Shoe who have to answer their part in filling the blogosphere with what you call Internet pollution.
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Suzanne
March 13th, 2008 at 6:25 am
8I wonder if you even really read my article. Problogger is one of my favorite blogs and neither Problogger or Shoemoney were even mentioned in my article Dare to be Interesting. As for John Chow, he simply isn’t interesting, IMHO. That does not make me a hater by any stretch of the imagination.
Suzanne’s last blog post..Get Paid to Blog: Career Blogging
Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 6:42 am
9@Erica - Yeah I picked that one on purpose. I thought it was funny.
@Jim - Sounds like you and I are on the same wavelength…take a few minutes if you will and read my last 6 or 8 posts. You might like em….or you could grab the feed.
@Erica - Agreed. John is a master marketer. Most of his innovative content is in his archives. If someone wants to see some really intelligent stuff then all they need to do is dig a little bit.
@Andy - welcome to my blog. I am glad we are in agreement. Love the input and hope you come back and check us out sometime.
@Wayne - no question that those joining the MMO crowd are coming in a bit too late to hope to capture a big piece of it. The trick for them (me) will be to differentiate one from the pack OR do it better.
@ Gerard - I don’t think it’s ambiguous at all. John is a good blogger and a master at what he does. His success inspires thousands to copy him every day, which is bad for blogging. It wasn’t meant as a hater post and I hope nobody takes it that way.
@ Suzanne- I wonder if you read your OWN article. I will quote the part where Shoe and Darren are mentioned. They are a tiny part of my reference anyways so it doesn’t matter but its funny that you claim they aren’t in there….when they are. Did you write it? Did you read it?
(Disclaimer: There are still a few A-listers around who ‘get it’ … ProBlogger is an outstanding blog and although he has succumbed somewhat to the A-lister syndrome, Shoemoney still writes good content).
Great comments by all so far. I hoped that this topic would inspire people to discuss the issue. Keep em coming.
Grizzly
March 13th, 2008 at 6:59 am
10What the noobs copying Chow don’t know is that he became famous by gaming Digg, Technorati and Google which gave him a large reader base. Because of his tactics and subsequent banning those same tactics aren’t available to others now. People think what he does now made him well known and are busy imitating him - a pointless exercise without search traffic.
On another front his monthly income is bogus - he doesn’t mention how much he spends to make it - ie. his adwords campaign. He has had to start buying traffic from Google since they slapped him into nowhere on the serp’s. Without the serp traffic he only has bloggers reading his posts and they don’t spend money - have you noticed most of his “ads” are affiliate links? Have you spent money on his blog?
His advertisers are finding out his traffic doesn’t convert and people paying for reviews are finding out his readers don’t stick around or spend money either. He is all show these days and sinking fast - bloggers will keep flocking to his blog but they are the most worthless type of traffic online. They do however keep talking about him…. on and on and on.
Grizzly’s last blog post..The Scourge of Web 2.0
Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 7:05 am
11@Grizz - Well said Grizz. John is hardly innovative today however a couple of years ago he was getting it done and obviously it worked well for him.
As for his income being bogus….maybe and maybe not. It would be nice if anyone posting an income report would post the entire thing OR better yet not post them at all.
No I haven’t advertised on his blog. Those affiliate links are sometimes people who bought the adspace though in order to post their own affilate links but on John’s blog.
What makes you think he’s sinking fast Grizz? What is the indicators that tell you that? His income is climbing monthly, Alexa still very low, seems to be going well but I am curious what makes you say that?
How’s Idol going for you….your favorites still there?
Jason
March 13th, 2008 at 7:22 am
12Sweet post. I stopped reading John Chow months ago, but cannot get those that continually bash him… as you said, they’d trade in a heartbeat.
There is a lot to learn from the man in terms of marketing, even though those things are not apparent without a little bit of digging. The same people that complain and complain are probably too busy to do that necessary digging… were they doing so, you’d find them too busy to complain, as they’d be managing websites that were growing successful.
And I don’t think Chow will die anytime soon, unless the whole industry follows him… people follow the money.
Pete White
March 13th, 2008 at 7:44 am
13The same can be said for the thousands of bloggers who write ‘top X ways to be a good blogger’ posts.
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Grizzly
March 13th, 2008 at 8:01 am
14Why would someone making 30k a month be buying Adwords? Think about this as it tells you a great deal. All of us who do make money online know that the key is search engine traffic - without it you are dead. Search traffic drives your income. In Chow’s case he sells ads and for this to work you need people on your site to click the ad and then spend money on the advertisers site. If you only get bloggers to your site they won’t click the ads or spend cash on the advertisers site. Do any of you?
The people paying for the ads are soon turned off because of low conversions and don’t return. Affiliate ads mean that either Chow has his own links on the page or they belong to noob bloggers who think his traffic will mean something - eventually they too will realize that they get some traffic but no sales. If his visitors converted you wouldn’t see affiliate links - you would see the program owners advertising with him. (Real advertisers)
Chow isn’t stupid - the reason he buys Adwords is because he knows his readers aren’t getting the job done for his advertisers and remember he used to get a lot of free search traffic from Google. (He ranked highly for all the top “make money online” keywords until he did something incredibly stupid - he tried gaming the serp’s. He knows that only search traffic converts and is busy buying it in order to keep his advertisers. I should mention that I am not just hypothesizing here - I currently get all that search traffic that he used to get and I know how well it converts.
He may claim his “sales” are climbing but his net income isn’t. He is paying huge dollars for his adwords campaign because he has an extremely low quality score - his pages are not optimized for the keywords he is targeting. He is paying for “make money online” keywords and sending the visitor to pages with photos of his dinner. If you are familiar with Adwords you will understand that this means you pay top dollar per click.
For those who doubt me about the importance on search traffic just look at Caroline Middlebrook - a disciple of Chow. I like her but she has copied him to the letter and some would say she is successful as she now has 1500 rss subscribers. What she hasn’t done is SEO and readily admits that she makes only $300 - $400 a month (Dec). That is pretty pathetic as I make that daily from Adsense alone and I am not an A-lister nor do I have huge RSS numbers. I do however rank on top of the serp’s for all the “make money” keywords.
Chow will survive as long as people keep writing posts about how great he is and keep sending fresh noobs to his site but his income will never recover from what it was before he got slapped by Google. He has run out of systems to game and he never had the content needed to build a long term business in the first place. He is not like Rowse or Shoemaker - they built up their blogs with useful content and more importantly they rank well in the serps and drive real traffic for their advertisers.
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budiputra.com :: John Chow is Bad for Blogging?
March 13th, 2008 at 8:32 am
15[...] John Chow might be considered bad for blogging, but his monthly revenue was really realy not bad. [...]
ukion
March 13th, 2008 at 9:24 am
16ha, ha, ha, very interesting post.
But, do you know that you entrecard today is on JohnChow.com blog.
I click on your entrecard ad before 2 min., shown on JohnChow.com
Is it accidently or on purpose?
Regards,
Ukion
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Tamera
March 13th, 2008 at 9:59 am
17Well, I would have to agree entirely with your post, and especially the envy syndrome. I was thinking about that the other day. Too long of a thought to put into a comment.
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Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
18Griz…nobody asked why he would buy adwords….I asked why you thought he was sinking. You said he was….I asked why since his income is going up every month.
Also you speak like John’s main source of income is his blog and that because of Google he will die a slow death….it ain’t happening. TTZ is his main project and he has also reached a level that he really doesn’t need Google, at least not for his blog.
Grizz…if you rank this high for make money terms…..which sites are yours. I would like to see one as I am curious.
Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
19@Tamera….maybe it would make a good post? Ever think of writing a guest post about your thought and I would post it on here?
Just a thought…call me crazy.
Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
20@Pete - I sort of agree with you. I am as tired of you of the How to List posts, but if a blogger can put a unique spin on it and write it in a way that separates them from the pack then I am all for them.
I also think refreshers from time to time are a great thing but too often a newbie blogger takes an old How to Post he read on someone else’s blog, rewords it a little bit and then posts it.
These are the ones that completely blow.
Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
21@Ukion - I was wondering if anyone would catch me on that. I won’t admit that this article was on purpose but I will say that I have had it written in my drafts folder for a few days waiting for the “right time” to post it.
Lol…nice catch.
Suzanne
March 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
22@Bill … you are right. I reread my post and noted exactly what I said about Problogger and Shoemoney so I was still wondering why you said that I said that Problogger was mediocre when I used the term “outstanding” to describe him? Just curious.
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Jay
March 13th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
23I’m not sure if it really matters if he’s bad at blogging. Actually, he’s not “bad” at blogging because you can blog about anything and be good… he might not be the same on teaching people HOW to make money online but he’s sure a great marketer like you mentioned!
He’s laughing at all the hatas all the way to the bank… in his snoopy slippers and bathrobe!
Jay
DatMoney.com
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Jeremy Steele
March 13th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
24John Chow doesn’t offer anything particularly special, he’s just an ordinary guy with extraordinary marketing skills, that’s all.
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Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
25@Suzanne - I have no idea…maybe you edited the post? You had your chance to correct me already but lost it when you didn’t even know that you had even mentioned him in your own article. Swing and a miss.
@Jay - No question it is working for him.
@Jeremy - Uhhh yeah…that was the whole point of the article wasn’t it?
Goldmoney
March 13th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
26I must say that I like this post. Title is very eye cacheable when you see it and I decided to visit the site because of it. Content is almost perfect, but reminds me on paid reviews type. Bay-the-way how much John Chow pays for….
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Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
27@Gold….Thanks I think. I could only wish John Chow paid me to write this post. That would be awesome AND it would be something that his evil mind would have thought of. That is what I mean by him being a great marketer.
Kyle James
March 13th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
28Bill you better watch out here… You keep up the controversial posts like there this as your blog gets larger you are going to spawn blogs that trash you.
You’ve cracked 100K in Alexa so watch out… your getting big time buddy.
Unfortunately I have nothing better to add to the conversation because I’ve read one John Chow post in my life and knew I never needed to go back.
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Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
29@Kyle - I can’t even see “big time” from here….in fact I don’t even think I could find it with my GPS. I appreciate the comments though and while I agree…John’s blog today is not that interesting but if you dig through his archives it used to be pretty good.
He was a marketing genius until he became successful, now all he does is cash checks and post income reports.
Deal Money
March 13th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
30Bill,
I must say I tend to lean towards what you have written here. John is entertaining, but the fact is John had this blog 8 months before he monetized it, and he also had TTZ.com since 1999, and was learning the ins and outs online througout the bubble. He saw a market and capitalized on it. Suffice it to say the blogging world seems to be at the top right now, but that may end soon. All good things must come to an end.
I have to say that there are plenty of blogs out there that talk about nothing, and ramble just like John who have plenty of readers. That Dooce.com chick has an unreal following and she talks about her life. Its all about your hook. John does teach to monetize your site. I bet there are a few blogs out there that have several thousand readers, and the blog owner does not have one AD on the site, and does not to Paid reviews etc. The MMO bloggers are showing people that traffic = money, and if you capitalize on it, you can be making 30K a month type of mantra.
Good read nonetheless!
Cheers,
Deal Money
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Grizzly
March 13th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
31Bill,
You asked,
“What makes you think he’s sinking fast Grizz? What is the indicators that tell you that? His income is climbing monthly, Alexa still very low, seems to be going well but I am curious what makes you say that?”
… and my answer was that he is buying Adwords - that’s a huge indicator. Would you pay for an Adwords campaign if you were making 30k a month? Why spend money if you don’t have to. If your answer is that he is increasing his revenue using Adwords (ie. he makes more than he spends) I mentioned that he isn’t very proficient at it based on the ads he is running. (The low quality score) He is spending a ton of money that he isn’t telling his readers about in order to recoup his lost traffic and keep his advertisers. You mention that he doesn’t need Google - why is he using Adwords then?
I can’t speak in regards to TTZ - you may be right. I am only talking about his blog and the fact that he reports 30K as a net income - it’s gross revenue at best and his net profit could be nothing as far we know.
My main MMO blog makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.com is on page 1 (Google) for most of the main “make money’ keywords. “make money online”, “How to make money”, “How to make money online”, “Making Money Online” as well as for dozens of other keywords.
Interesting discussion you have going here Bill, I’ll have to stop in more often.
Cheers
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Laura
March 13th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
32I have been reading your blog here and there. I think it’s interesting about John Chow. I had never heard of him until he was referenced on another EC blog and again here on yours. I’ve never gone to his site. So, good or bad, is that good marketing or not? I have heard of him but haven’t been interested enough to visit his site. Having fame isn’t enough if no one comes along to click your link.
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Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
33@Grizz - I see your angle now. I was confused at first (not hard to do) as to why you were talking about adwords but I get it now and I agree with you. I guess that’s the price he has to pay for gaming Google. Google wins every time.
No question that buying traffic is a disadvantage. I wish he would admit how much he spends for that traffic or if he even DOES buy traffic.
I am going to go see if I can find a few of his ads. I hope you do stop by, I have your blog in my reader as well. Love the stuff you and Vic are doing and the video blog Vic is doing is pretty cool stuff. I am interested in seeing how that progresses for him.
@Laura - considering his Alexa is sub 5k then I’d say he has plenty of traffic. I think because you have never heard of him is certainly no indicator of whether he is a good marketer or not.
Laura
March 13th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
34Most people who start MM blogs expect to have a get rick quick thing. They don’t know it takes a lot of time and work to build a blog, keep it going and promote it too. I’ve been blogging a long time. Longer than a lot of people writing about blogging. I don’t know it all, I don’t have to. I do think there are very very few voices out there that I want to spend time listening to.
The key is finding and keeping your voice while still finding time to do a little promoting too. Promoting and wriiting a blog (to make money) are two full time jobs. Almost no one gets started knowing that. That is why most don’t last a year, if that.
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Laura
March 13th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
35I don’t mean my not hearing of him shows he is a good marketer or not. I’m saying that nothing I have heard has tempted me to visit his site. You can’t sell if no one is looking. Eventually, the fame will not be enough on it’s own.
I don’t read a blog cause it has a high rank on Alexa or Technorati. That is no kind of guide to find a quality blog.
Laura’s last blog post..Not Very Evil
Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
36@ Laura - EXACTLY. That’s the point of my article is that bloggers like John make it look easy and then hundreds of these MMO bloggers start up only to find that it isn’t easy.
We differ in that there are thousands of voices out there I want to listen to. The blogosphere is full of talented individuals that have a TON to offer. I love hearing what they have to say.
Simple Mindz
March 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
37I use to read him… But I never found his blog all that interesting. I did have a link from my site, but I took it down because I was not sure my readers would find him interesting.
It’s amazing though, all the money he has made! He was one of the lucky ones that made it.
Simple Mindz’s last blog post..my blog stats creepiness…
Bill
March 13th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
38@Laura - Alexa and Technorati are great indicators of quality blogs. They aren’t the end all be all but you won’t get either one without having something to offer.
@SM - I am with you. I can’t stomach the paid review after paid review but if I were making 500 bucks on each one…I’d pound em out too.
Rick Vaughn
March 13th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
39Gotta admit the making money online niche is fully taken. I have learn alot from John in the short time I have been blogging. Just like he says in his ebook if your getting some neg press that must mean your doing something right.
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Liane
March 14th, 2008 at 12:13 am
40I’ve seen so many haters of Mr. JC since I started blogging. Well as the saying goes, “hating the persons who hate you makes you a loser” and a sore one at that. I still believe in Mr. JC, his blogging, and his rambling antics. At least he’s mature and proffesional enough to realize that facing flamers is a pity waste of time. They just gotta learn to shut up, mind their own business, and quit hating people who make it big just because they don’t.
That’s all.
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Laura
March 14th, 2008 at 2:01 am
41@Bill- I’ve had a lot of experience reviewing blogs. I was an editor with Dmoz for nine years. I found the best way to find a blog was through another blog. Word of mouth (or whatever it would be called from blog to blog) is still much better than a ratings site.
I also find a lot of voices to listen too. But too many say the same thing, almost to the point of quoting the party line over and over. Not sure if you will know what that means. Anyway, you yourself stand out as you don’t go on and on about how you can make money as if it was as simple as starting a blog and waiting for the cash to flow in. From my experience, working in the Dmoz categories for weblogs about blogs, promoting, internet marketing and etc. You are pretty unique.
Laura’s last blog post..The Art Personality Test from the BBC.
Bill
March 14th, 2008 at 5:53 am
42@Laura - I agree with you on the word of mouth thing. I was only trying to say that you don’t get good alexa ratings and good technorati ratings without people liking you. I think we’re on the same page though.
Thanks for the comment about being unique. My voice is changing as I learn to blog and become better at it. I enjoy it too much to simply write post after post about the latest affiliate product that nobody is going to buy and is terrible anyways.
I have a very different theory than most of the mmo blogs on blog monetization that is going to be a pretty neat article. I am going to publish it in the next week or two.
Thanks for the comments, I always say I love the comment section and this thread has been a great one for that.
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March 14th, 2008 at 6:31 am
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MarketingDeviant
March 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
44I think he’s just cashing in now because he knows his blog will suffer soon or later because he’s busy and running out of topics.
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Futon-Matt
March 14th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
45Wow, so John Chow is like the Johny Appleseed of MMO Bloggers.
Point taken.
Andy
March 14th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
46Great perspective…I never thought of it this way and the fact that he has so many copycat blogs…..Great blog as well and I will be subscribing.
Cheers,
Andy
Andy
March 14th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
47Great perspective…I never thought of it this way and the fact that he has so many copycat blogs…..Great blog as well and I will be subscribing.
Cheers,
Andy
Crystal
March 15th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
48I’m only fond of the guy because he and I are from the same city. Pssh, he even hangs out at the same mall as I do. Copycat? I THINK SO =P
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March 16th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
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Wade
March 16th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
50I personally like John Chow. Probably because he is the one who pulled me into the blogging for money business. Not everyone could just throw a blog together and just talk about how rich you are, he does it with flare. So you need to use tips and techniques from many successful bloggers. Throw them all in one pot, and stir. Make your own recipe for success.
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crikey web articles
March 17th, 2008 at 4:59 am
51personally i think he has good at marketing but he also gets free advertising like this page so peole check him out whether they like him or not…he has an overadvertising style i think personally and his blog is good for selling to ppl that want to be sold to all the time…in truth he is in sale mode all the time…but good on him for getting good income…although who is to say thats all real anyways lol….alot of programs out there claim amazing earnings and what are they real earning is not even half…but the belief creates income…
shanker bakshi
March 19th, 2008 at 11:05 am
52HATE ME, i also try to imitate him.
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malawika
April 5th, 2008 at 5:07 am
55WOW! That was heavy… but TRUE.
You are very brainy.
Ria
April 16th, 2008 at 3:17 am
56I don’t know much about John Chow, but I’d rather listen to someone that’s made some serious bucks, than someone who hasn’t made a dime on blogging, but trying to teach me how to do it.
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April 17th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
57The thing about John Chow is that he is successful… and I believe that after most people become successful doing something, then they don’t feel the need to try so hard anymore… If you go back to when John Chow’s blog first started then you will notice the difference in post quality. More information, less media.
Jonny
April 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
58I agree with your conclusion. I hear from so many people (usually people who dont know a lot about making money online) that they can just follow john chow’s blueprint and make money. Or they’ll even advise me - Just do it like he does it. The thing is … Well it just doesn’t really work like that. heh… We don’t need more John Chow wannabe blogs, that’s for sure. I see them all the time these days.
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May 1st, 2008 at 4:05 am
59[...] with a dead guy and the other makes his case why making money online blogs should be killed. Oh and even this guy who makes 30K a month says it’s bloody hard work. … sorry, I just can’t help rubbing it [...]
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May 5th, 2008 at 3:45 am
60That picture is frightening!!!
Although I stopped reading john chow a while back, I did learn a great deal from his blog. The reason I stopped reading was not because he writes mostly about his lunch, or that he is the root of all evil as some would say…… it is because of two reasons. Firstly, there is nothing new - like you mention Bill, he is doing the same thing and breeding a whole new clan of john chow wannabees who churn out the same old stuff. Secondly, I have found a new breed of sites that teach me more, that I enjoy reading and most importantly offer me fresh ideas!
Has John Chow had his day? I dont think so. Certainly not with the ever increasing amount of noobs who copy him to the letter.
Grizz, as always, raised some good points here and I agree, it’s a good discussion you have got going on here. I’ll be back.
~Thanks
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demon babies
June 27th, 2008 at 9:07 am
61demon babies…
As you seem to know what your doing blogging wise, do you know what the best time of the week is to blog and have them read?…
Ben Moreno
July 28th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
62I noticed that John Chow did just talk about products and promote stuff. It kind of made me think that he was boring but now that you put it that way it makes sense.
Also, if you are knew to trying to blog for money then you shouldn’t be talking trash about the guys who are doing well. You should praise them and learn from them instead.
Anyway, I subscribed to your blog.
Rodney Smith
October 20th, 2008 at 9:06 am
63Good post, Bill. Yup, love him or hate him, you’ve gotta admire the guy. Thanks for pointing out that making money blogging is hard work - the only people saying it’s easy are those who’re trying to sell you something, in my opinion!
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November 19th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
64Bill,
I agree with your points here in that:
John Chow’s blog is kind of lousy but he obviously knows what he is doing - so paying attention is a smart thing to do.
Am I jealous? - you bet. I would love to be making 30K per month. I guess I’ll have to continue working hard for quite a while.
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David
November 30th, 2008 at 2:31 am
65John chow has an awesome blog… great design and content.
I think that if you are a copycat blogger than you won’t last.
he delivers unique content.
if you deliver unique content certain unique people will follow you!
it’s all about opinions and viewpoints.
just be yourself and BLOG!
if your interested in a certain subject blog about it… don’t mind anyone just blog about it and keep improving everything about it!
great post!
David,
Http://davidbeking.com
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January 19th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
66Hi. Nice article. I do agree with you. He has standard article, but his marketing skills are great. Marketing is the key, how you attract people to you.
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